Greeks in Mexico and the "New World"
Jim Allen, author
Atlantis: the Andes Solution
Atlantis: Lost Kingdom of the Andes
"The Conquest of New Spain" an account by Bernal Diaz, one of the soldiers or "Conquistadors" who acccompanied
Hernando Cortez on his overthrow of the Aztec civilisation (Penguin Classics 1963 - English translation of the
original work written in Spanish in 1576) makes an interesting statement on page 91. "It appears that one of our
soldiers had a helmet that was half-gilt but somewhat rusty. This Tendile (emissary of Montezuma, the Aztec
emperor) noticed,
and being of a more inquiring disposition than his fellow Cacique he asked if he might see it, since it
was like one that they possessed which had been left them by their ancestors of the race from which they sprang
and placed on the head of their god Huichilobos."
That might help explain why the Spanish invadors were intitially thought to be Gods as the native inhabitants also had legends about gods who would return one day from the East.
But since for the Spanish, it was the first time they had set foot on what to them was a "New World" and which they
audaciously claimed as territory belonging to the King of Spain, even going as far as to name it "New Spain", it opens
up the question as to who might have been the race of people the Mexicans thought their race sprang from?
Various suggestions have been put forward in the past, such as that Mexico might have been visited by Egyptians, or Phoenicians or originally survivors from Atlantis, but one of the more interesting possibilities very much overlooked these days, is the idea that Mexico might have been visited by Greeks after the Trojan war.
This idea although dismissed by modern archaeologist, occurs with many classical writers.
Such as Pedro Sarmiento de Gamboa, the great Spanish navigator and classical scholar writing in his "History of the Incas" (written in 1572 but after sending to the spanish court was subsequently lost for over 300 years.")
This is what Sarmiento de Gamboa has to say about the original inhabitants of the Americas, which he says was also called "New Castille or Western Indies of Castille", "New Spain" or "the island of Atlantis." "The land, which we read of as having existed in the first and second age of the world, was divided into five parts. The three continents, of which geographers usually write, Asia, Africa, and Europe, are divided by the river Tanais, the river Nile, and the Mediterranean Sea, which Pomponius calls "our" sea. Asia is divided from Europe by the river Tanais[22], now called Silin, and from Africa by the Nile, though Ptolemy divides it by the Red Sea and isthmus of the desert of Arabia Deserta. Africa is divided from Europe by "our" sea, commencing at the strait of Gibraltar and ending with the Lake of Meotis. The other two parts are thus divided. One was called, and still ought to be called, Catigara[23] in the Indian Sea, a very extensive land now distinct from Asia. The fifth part is or was called the Atlantic Island, as famous as extensive, and which exceeded all the others, each one by itself, and even some joined together. The inhabitants of it and their description will be treated of, because this is the land, or at least part of it, of these western Indies of Castille.
III. DESCRIPTION OF THE ANCIENT ATLANTIC ISLAND.
The cosmographers do not write of this ancient Atlantic Island because
there was no memory, when they wrote, of its very rich commercial
prosperity in the second, and perhaps in the first age. But from what
the divine Plato tells us and from the vestiges we see which agree with
what we read, we can not only say where it was and where parts of it
were, as seen in our time, but we can describe it almost exactly, its
grandeur and position. This is the truth, and the same Plato affirms it
as true, in the Timęus, where he gives its truthful and marvellous
history.
V.
INHABITANTS OF THE ATLANTIC ISLAND.
We have indicated the situation of the Atlantic Island and those who, in
conformity with the general peopling of the world, were probably its
first inhabitants, namely the early Spaniards and the first Mauritanian
vassals of the King Atlas. This wonderful history was almost forgotten
in ancient times, Plato alone having preserved it, as has already been
related in its place, and which should again be consulted for what
remains. Plato, in Critias, says that to Neptune's share came the
Atlantic Island, and that he had ten sons. He divided the whole island
amongst them, which before and in his time was called the empire of the
floating islands, as Volaterranius tells us. It was divided by Neptune
into ten regions or kingdoms. The chief one, called Venus, he gave to
his eldest son named Atlantis, and appointed him sovereign of the whole
island; which consequently took the name of Atlantica, and the sea
Atlantic, a name which it retains to this day.
The second son, named
Gadirun, received the part which lies nearest to Spain and which is now
Caliz. To the third son Neptune gave a share. His name was Amferes, the
fourth's Eutoctenes, the seventh's Alusipo, the eighth's Mestores, the
ninth's Azaen, the tenth's Diaprepem. These and their descendants
reigned for many ages, holding the lordships, by the sea, of many other
islands, which could not have been other than Hayti, which we call Santo
Domingo, Cuba and others, also peopled by emigrants from the Atlantic
Island. They also held sway over Africa as far as Egypt, and over Europe
to Tirrenia and Italy.
It may be assumed that these very numerous nations of Atlantis were
sufficient to people those other lands of the Western Indies of
Castille. Other nations also came to them, and peopled some provinces
after the above destruction. Strabo and Solinus say that Ulysses, after
the fall of Troy, navigated westward to Lusitania, founded Lisbon, and,
after it had been built, desired to try his fortune on the Atlantic
Ocean by the way we now go to the Indies. He disappeared, and it was
never afterwards known what had become of him. This is stated by Pero
Anton Beuter, a noble Valencian historian and, as he mentions, this was
the opinion of Dante Aligheri, the illustrious Florentine poet. Assuming
this to be correct we may follow Ulysses from island to island until he
came to Yucatan and Campeachy, part of the territory of New Spain. For
those of that land have the Grecian bearing and dress of the nation of
Ulysses, they have many Grecian words, and use Grecian letters. Of this
I have myself seen many signs and proofs. Their name for God is "Teos"
which is Greek, and even throughout New Spain they use the word "Teos"
for God. I have also to say that in passing that way, I found that they
anciently preserved an anchor of a ship, venerating it as an idol, and
had a certain genesis in Greek, which should not be dismissed as absurd
at first sight. Indeed there are a sufficient number of indications to
support my conjecture concerning Ulysses. From thence all those
provinces of Mexico, Tabasco, Xalisco, and to the north the Capotecas,
Chiapas, Guatemalas, Honduras, Lasandones, Nicaraguas, Tlaguzgalpas, as
far as Nicoya, Costa Rica, and Veragua.
It may thus be deduced that New Spain and its provinces were peopled by
the Greeks, those of Catigara by the Jews, and those of the rich and
most powerful kingdoms of Peru and adjacent provinces by the Atlantics
who were descended from the primeval Mesopotamians and Chaldęans,
peoplers of the world."
So it was the opinion of Sarmiento de Gamboa that Greeks after Troy had travelled to Mexico ...
This is what Wikipedia has to say about the island of Ogygia - another name asssociated with Atlantis
Location of Ogygia
- Many ancient and modern interpreters believe that Ogygia was located in the Ionian Sea or in the Mediterranean
Sea. Later interpretations sometimes identify Ogygia and Phaeacia with sunken Atlantis. A long standing tradition
begun by Euhemerus in the late Fourth Century B.C.E and supported by Callimachus, also endorsed by native
Maltese tradition, identifies Ogygia with the island of Gozo, the second largest island in the archipelago.
Some scholars, having examined the work and the geography of Homer, have suggested that Ogygia and Scheria were
located in the Atlantic Ocean. Among them were Strabo and Plutarch. Modern scholars, however, are reluctant to
place Ogygia or indeed any of the locations Homer describes in any existing geography and the literary tale is
acknowledged as a work of fictional, mythical intent.
Geographical account by Strabo
- Approximately eight centuries after Homer, Strabo, the geographer criticized Polybius on the Geography of
the Odyssey. Strabo proposed that Scherķa and Ogygia were located in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Plutarch also gives an account on the location of Ogygia:
The above passage of Plutarch has created a lot of controversy. Hamilton in 1934 indicated the similarities
of Plutarch's account on "the great continent" and Plato's location of Atlantis. Kepler in his "Kepleri
Astronomi Opera Omnia" estimated that "the great continent" was America and attempted to locate Ogygia and the
surrounding islands. Roderic O'Flaherty used the name as a synonym for Ireland in the title of his 1685 Irish
history. Wilhelm von Christ was convinced that the continent was America and states that during 100 AD sailors
travelling through Iceland, Greenland, and the Baffin Region reached the North American coast. G. Mair in
1909 suggested that the knowledge of America came from Carthaginian sailors who had reached the Gulf of Mexico.
Henriette Mertz, an American archaeologist, proposed in her book The Wine Dark Sea: Homer's Heroic Epic of the
North Atlantic (1964) that Ogygia was one of the Azores."
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See Also
artefacts
"Ogygia, is an island mentioned in Homer's Odyssey book V as the home of the nymph Calypso, the daughter of the Titan Atlas, also known as Atlantis in ancient Greek. Calypso detained Odysseus on Ogygia for seven years and kept him from returning to his home of Ithaca. Athena complained about Calypso's actions to Zeus, who sent the messenger Hermes to Ogygia to order Calypso release Odysseus. Calypso finally allowed Odysseus to build a small raft and depart the island.
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